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[Dirty]

I am anti-war...

an eye for an eye?

I think that the men in power and corporate business owners in the US are to blame for most.

I think the sad thing is, that as long as there are people, there will be "terror" and things blowing up randomly. I feel there is no such thing as a war on terror, you can not fight human nature. I would be pretty pissed if I lived in a war torn country and had to fight for food as the people that took my lands oil got fat and sat in air condition. If someone in my family was killed by a missle saying "Made in Sringdale Nevada" I would hold a grudge. I however, don't understand the need for the revenge to be taken out on a public bus. These people were doing what they had to do in the society they live in to support and feed their familes. I try to learn, understand and become part of this world. I try to be human and what I was born as. To be honest, people still disgust me. There is no good or evil, there is no hero or villian. All people it seems, are disgusting creatures that destroy others, the planet and their own lives through greed and morals.

Fuck all of you!

 

[Satan]

Im sorry you feel so much hatred towards us lol

 

[Hypnos]

It seems to me that blowing up a bus full of innocent people is the perfect way to stop a super power such as America or Great Britian. The terrorists (or islamic extremists) belive that thier land is not for sale, nor should it be occupied by (by troops near holy sites) Western forces. Before technology went fuckin nuts and made America into this fuckin super-monster-on-steroids-push-a-button-and-you-all-die Power this would have been settled by a nice 2 or 3 year long war.
But since the teorrorist are not completly stupid, they relaize that if they try to wage war on the troops of America they will lose. So for awhile they tried targeting Amercian soldiers , trying to get the death toll high enough so that the people of America would all shout that it wasn't worth it. However, Bush made it clear that the loss of troops was worth it (I'm not going to get into the fact that the american people don't care because of (1) all volunteer army (2) effects conservative media)
So the next plan of action for the terrorists is obviusly to make the peolpe that don't care care about the loss of life. They blew up some trains in Madrid and said, this wouldn't have happened if Spain was not in the Holy Land, also, if you pull out now it won't happen again. ---Spain pulls out----
Now, they blow up a bunch of innocent people on a bus in London and repeat the phrase that this would not have happened if the British were not in the holy land. Most of the Bitish are against the war any way and could give fuck about what's going on down there in Iraq. I propose that the war coming home to london would be enough to get the people to be more vocal about pulling out of Iraq or whatever "holy land" they are occupying.
So I think that's the logic of the Terrorists in the destruction of innocents on a bus...to stir up anti-war sentiment. And thanks to our democratic model the leaders have to listen or risk getting the boot from office. (as happened in Spain)


I just realized that I felt like writting alot about someting I don't know the answer to. but it could be true.

 

[Ramon Knight]

I feel there is no such thing as a war on terror, you can not fight human nature.

Yeah, same reason i think Aesop's fables are all bullshit, you cant reverse the way humans are by telling em what they're doing is wrong if its in their nature to do it. (not without violence, anyway..and even that only works for a while)

 

[Hypnos]

I feel that it's more about calculated political moves than human nature. but whatever.

 

[Dirty]

Well a lot of what you say is true... But when and where did any terriost say that they would stop blowing up busses or what not when we pulled our troops out? It seems to me that the attack on 9/11 caused us to send a shit load more troops then before. The problem with these people isnt only our troops that are there, its the fact that they live a poor life while we use the oil from their backyards.

Also, I am not a radical or believe in many conspiracy theories. If you really study history, the power hungry are all the same. They blind you with what you want, or suppress you into submission to gain or reach their goals. The facts are pretty scary when it comes to big money and power hungry Americans... What people do to gain power even if it means attacking their own people. Who, what and when are just things that the common man doesnt know or can't know.


and about the calculated political moves... Yeah, but isnt that something that fits in with human nature? I don't see calculated political moves when a shark hunts a seal.

 

[Puppet]

Sorry guys, I'm a simple man. There will always be some country that is "most" powerful just like there will always be a CS player that is better than you, no matter how hard you try. If the tables turned and the terrorists were able to get us to stop using our power for oil then they would become the power, and I guarandamntee ya that they would use their power to control other countries for their own benefit and they would leave the downtrodden behind. So I say fuckem. We are the power for now and I will back anything that promotes that power. You guys make America sound like a bunch of power hungry pricks, but when it comes down to the wire, who comes in and helps countries in need? Who pours billions of dollars into relief for countries that have no oil whatsoever to offer us?

 

[Dirty]

Once that money leaves our tax payers hands, they give it to poor countries in need right?

Where does it go once it gets there? 1.5 trillion dollars is laundered annually around the world. Much of this is laundered by rich institutions based in rich countries. Does that money get used for what we think? Those places still seem pretty hard up after we have already sent billions. Maybe officals are there spending that money where they want, fooling people into thinking its for a good cause. We gave money and weapons to the Taliban (people in need?) when they were fighting Russia. Aside from oil, drugs are the list also.

and the plot thickens!

 

[Puppet]

You are such a pessimist. I would have never figured.

 

[Dirty]

ok ok... thank you America for the high speed internet, and porn!


but fuck man!

Can I just swim, get drunk and be a bad fish?

 

[keisorsoze]

Did you ever hear the phrase "Religion is the greatest weapon of all"

another thing, the last time I checked OPEC is not giving the oil away for free, now I`m pissed off, where`s my cost of living raise? It takes me $45 to fill my tank every week, where are all those stemwackers now, you know the protesters holding the signs "NO WAR FOR OIL", what a crock of shit the war was never about oil....

 

[slick]

I'm with Dirty on this one.

 

[Hypnos]

Did you ever hear the phrase "Religion is the greatest weapon of all"

I thought it was the opiate of the masses.

 

[keisorsoze]

I`m not pickin sides here cause some of the things Puppet says I believe and same with Dirty, but I have that same "fuck-it" mentality, I`m glad I live in america, I`m glad america is a super power, I don`t nessesarily like payin all those fuckin taxes but who does? My opinion will never mean shit so i`ll just go to work every day, make my money, and raise my daughter, so she can grow up to see just how fucked up the world is.
As long as they don`t ban La Cerveza and counter-strike and they keep makin Paxil 37.5 i`m good to go.....

 

[Defender]

The war sucks. We are now involved but truthfully we were always involved. Now it's just on CNN all the time. I personally think it's a step in the right direction. It might not work installing democracy in Iraq but fuck it ...at least we can say we tried. The middle east has been a problem forever. I remember watching the news as a kid when IRAN held USA hostages forever and a day (about a year). I can't remember why it happened but I am pretty sure Bush wasn't president at the time. Those fuck-tards have always hated Americans and mostly because of our values. We are not them by a long shot and they know it.

War sucks but so what...

And Dirty...

Can I just swim, get drunk and be a bad fish?

Yes you can. That's the beauty of America that the Islamist Extremist want to take away from you. Think of all the things you do in a day they would cut your balls off for.