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illspirit

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North Korea warned the United Nations Security Council on April 7th, 2009 that it would take "strong steps" if the fifteen nation body took any action in response to Pyongyang's launch of a long-range rocket three days earlier. The United States voiced its displeasure calling the launch a "provocative act" that violated a 2006 Security Council resolution prohibiting Pyongyang from conducting ballistic missile launches.

On April 13th, 2009 the United Nations Security Council in a "Presidential Letter" condemned North Korea's April 5th rocket launch and demanded that Pyongyang not conduct further tests, saying that it would expand existing sanctions against North Korea. The 15 member Security Council voted unanimously for the statement by the council's president demanding the country make no more launches. This response was one level below a formal resolution.

On April 17th, 2009 Washington increased pressure on North Korea by warning of "consequences" for its recent rocket launch and the latest decision to kick out nuclear inspectors. A State Department spokesperson said that "North Korea has not listened to the will of the international community, and therefore it's going to have to face the consequences from its unwillingness to meet the international community's requirements."

North Korea quickly responded saying any sanctions or pressure to be put upon it as a declaration of undisguised confrontation and a declaration of a war against the DPRK. The North Korean spokesman reportedly said, "There is no limit to the strike to be made by the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK." North Korea has reacted to the criticism with more than just words. They expelled all nuclear weapons inspectors and declared that they will resume work on nuclear weapons.

Most military strategist agree that cyber attacks are an excellent first strike weapon. In these specific circumstances, cyber attacks might be considered by Pyongyang as an appropriate and proportional response to the U.N. Security Council's condemnation and reinforcement of existing sanctions. High probability targets if DPRK launches cyber attacks include South Korea and the fifteen countries that make up the current U.N. Security Council that include -- permanent members-China, France, Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States -- and ten non-permanent members Austria, Japan, Uganda, Burkina Faso, Libyan Arab Jamahiriya, Vietnam, Costa Rica, Mexico, Croatia and Turkey. This calls for increased vigilance by cyber security professionals guarding the critical infrastructure of those targets identified above.

North Korean Cyber Capabilities Estimate:

  • Unit: 121
  • Established: 1998
  • Force Size: 12,000 declining

  • Cyber Budget: $56+ million.

  • Goal: To increase their military standing by advancing their asymmetric and cyber warfare capabilities.

  • Experience: Hacked into South Korea and caused substantial damage; hacked into the U.S. Defense Department Systems.

  • Threat Rating: North Korea is ranked 8th on the cyber capabilities threat matrix developed in August 2007 and updated February 2009.

  • Cyber Intelligence/Espionage: Basic to moderately advanced weapons with significant ongoing development into cyber intelligence.

  • Offensive Cyber Weapons: North Korea now has the technical capability to construct and deploy an array of cyber weapons. They have moderately advanced distributed denial of service (DDoS) capabilities with moderate virus and malicious code capabilities. Hacking capabilities are moderate to strong with an experience rating of limited to moderate.
-- Kevin Coleman
http://defensetech.org



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SpIkE_JoNzE

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wow so all countries are involved, at least technologically advanced...cyber war is beginning, lets watch out our steps IMO.

btw: interesting topic...u caught my eye...thanks :)
 

Seawied

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I'm not too worried. Its just like their rocket programs problem: you can't ever get anything done right unless you actually FEED your scientists
 

illspirit

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North Korea is a joke, I'll give you that. But the successful attacks from the RBN on countries such as Estonia and Georgia are frightening. They have a bot net we could only dream of, and it's getting stronger everyday. It will be only a matter of time before there's an attack on US infrastructure, hell there's already been multiple cases of successful hacks into Pentagon machines... it can't be that hard as long as they have enough processor power.
 

Seawied

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at worst, North Korea will attack South Korea by hacking into the system and shutting down all the Starcraft servers for two weeks. Mass panic will ensue
 

rocktrns

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Im not worried they wont attack anyone.
If they attack USA we will just send a rocket out to intercept it in the atlantic or somthing.
 

illspirit

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That was too much to read im sorry

Yeah, you're pretty fucking stupid... so you wouldn't have understood it anyway.

Im not worried they wont attack anyone.

Double negative... you just said you're worried.

If they attack USA we will just send a rocket out to intercept it in the atlantic or somthing.
This is cyber attacks you dumb piece of shit, not missiles. The "almighty" USA will not intercept shit when Russia/China decide to flood our network.


Stupid people please stay out of my topic.
 

illspirit

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I rather have the 2-3 intelligent people on this forum post. =)

Shit, I rather have no replies than the retard convention dropping by.
 

Seawied

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seriously though, I'm really not that worried. These kinds of attacks come and go. We might have to increase cyber defense budget a bit, but people have been screaming about this kind of thing since the 90s.

Eventually all government computers will probably have a completely custom operating system to make this kind of thing more difficult.
 

illspirit

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In the 90s there were barely enough resources to ddos a company or a website let alone a country. Nowadays, organizations such as the RBN have enough resources to take down multiple countries(as they have already shown) and if the numbers they are saying are correct... 50 million zombies in their Storm botnet. That's been doubled over the last five years. If it continues to grow, we're fucked. It doesn't matter what OS nodes are running, 99% of our networking equipment in Cisco, and I'm sure they will find an exploit sooner or later. They could probably ddos the fuck out of us right now.
 

Miran_Eitan

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Forgive me, as I'm completely ignorant when it comes to direct information about the interwebz. I get paid to google computer issues and pretend like I fixed the issue. When all else fails, reformatting is key.

With that being said, what happened to the isolated section of the net that the DOD used to have?

I thought that the Government systems were more or less seperate from the internet as a whole and had no link to the outside world. I don't remember the name of it, but I seem to recall when Darpa did their thing, there were two internet systems that were produced.

Escape and Avoidance. If you can't escape or defeat the issue, go around it. They have more man power? Nullify the issue by simply creating a new network. Put a screenshot of Obama giving the finger on the desktops on all the old computers and just move on :p

It'd mean laying cabling meant specifically for that new network and figuring out a way to keep it from being breached. It'd be a pain, but it's better than letting the chinks get at all your Oval Office Porn.
 
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illspirit

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DOD is on a separate network, same technology but I'm pretty sure they're isolated from the public net. Creating a new system would be horrendous, they predict the internet will be having brownouts by 2013 because they are unable to re-enforce the existing system. A new "internet" would be crazy. The biggest issue is not government itself, it's the fact that our whole "internetwork" in the United States would come to a halt. No packets leaving servers do to 50+mil plus packets flooding them. Global finance depends on internet, companies from eBay to banks would have no data connections... no back ups. Credit cards would not work, as well as many other things we depend on in the US. We'd have no choice but to "unplug" the internet and have no outgoing connections out of the US. Estonia went I week I believe? without internet, they were only able to access their intranet(local government sites, etc.)

Our cyber-crime division has their own botnet, probably running on IPs not located in the US. I'm sure they'd cut connection before we'd ever have to unplug, but the sheer amount of processor power is ridiculous. Even if they brought us down for a couple hours, it'd be frantic.
 
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